Comments on: SharePoint Site Template for jQuery and Scripting Resources – v01 http://www.endusersharepoint.com/2009/10/29/sharepoint-site-template-for-jquery-and-scripting-resources-v01/ Immediate Solutions for Everyday Business Problems Thu, 26 Nov 2009 21:39:54 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: EndUserSharePoint http://www.endusersharepoint.com/2009/10/29/sharepoint-site-template-for-jquery-and-scripting-resources-v01/comment-page-1/#comment-19337 EndUserSharePoint Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:56:33 +0000 http://www.endusersharepoint.com/?p=3090#comment-19337 Harold - Glad you enjoyed the SPS Philly presentation. I'm re-working those based upon the response received. I didn't realize people would be so excited about the solutions. Yes, I am going to keep the various versions available in the resources center. That makes sense when trying to be backwards compatible. Regards, Mark Harold – Glad you enjoyed the SPS Philly presentation. I’m re-working those based upon the response received. I didn’t realize people would be so excited about the solutions.

Yes, I am going to keep the various versions available in the resources center. That makes sense when trying to be backwards compatible.

Regards,
Mark

]]> By: Harold Gale http://www.endusersharepoint.com/2009/10/29/sharepoint-site-template-for-jquery-and-scripting-resources-v01/comment-page-1/#comment-19336 Harold Gale Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:29:44 +0000 http://www.endusersharepoint.com/?p=3090#comment-19336 Mark, Great presentation at SharePoint Saturday. Being a not full time coder. I can understand the reason behind a version free naming covnention. I would however keep the version names for coding in CEWP. Lets say you create a CEWP and have the version JS of js.1.2-min.js. You do several upgrades and can still reference js.1.2-min.js. If you shorten the names and during an upgrade things break, how do you know what the last version the js worked with? Also if you have some cool older js scripts that are deprecated for an upgrade, you could always reference the oler version Mark,
Great presentation at SharePoint Saturday.

Being a not full time coder. I can understand the reason behind a version free naming covnention.

I would however keep the version names for coding in CEWP.

Lets say you create a CEWP and have the version JS of js.1.2-min.js. You do several upgrades and can still reference js.1.2-min.js.

If you shorten the names and during an upgrade things break, how do you know what the last version the js worked with?

Also if you have some cool older js scripts that are deprecated for an upgrade, you could always reference the oler version

]]> By: EndUserSharePoint http://www.endusersharepoint.com/2009/10/29/sharepoint-site-template-for-jquery-and-scripting-resources-v01/comment-page-1/#comment-19028 EndUserSharePoint Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:10:27 +0000 http://www.endusersharepoint.com/?p=3090#comment-19028 Lee - Coming along well. I'm going to move it into my public MOSS site at fpWeb and make it "Read only" so people can examine it and possibly even point to the resources if they need it. The goal is to fire test it, then make it available for people building jQuery solutions in SharePoint. Mark Lee – Coming along well. I’m going to move it into my public MOSS site at fpWeb and make it “Read only” so people can examine it and possibly even point to the resources if they need it.

The goal is to fire test it, then make it available for people building jQuery solutions in SharePoint.

Mark

]]> By: Lee Seidel http://www.endusersharepoint.com/2009/10/29/sharepoint-site-template-for-jquery-and-scripting-resources-v01/comment-page-1/#comment-19027 Lee Seidel Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:05:30 +0000 http://www.endusersharepoint.com/?p=3090#comment-19027 Hi Mark....thought I would check and see what the latest status is on this. Cheers Hi Mark….thought I would check and see what the latest status is on this.

Cheers

]]> By: EndUserSharePoint http://www.endusersharepoint.com/2009/10/29/sharepoint-site-template-for-jquery-and-scripting-resources-v01/comment-page-1/#comment-18534 EndUserSharePoint Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:40:53 +0000 http://www.endusersharepoint.com/?p=3090#comment-18534 Brian, Neither. I am creating a desktop app that will let you point at your SharePoint environement and build the jQuery resources site where ever you want it. Planning on rolling it out at the end of this week. Mark Brian,

Neither. I am creating a desktop app that will let you point at your SharePoint environement and build the jQuery resources site where ever you want it. Planning on rolling it out at the end of this week.

Mark

]]> By: Brian Bedard http://www.endusersharepoint.com/2009/10/29/sharepoint-site-template-for-jquery-and-scripting-resources-v01/comment-page-1/#comment-18533 Brian Bedard Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:34:01 +0000 http://www.endusersharepoint.com/?p=3090#comment-18533 Are you creating a site template? Or a site definition? STP vs ONET? or 2010: WSP vs ONET? I hear these terms used interchangably. I just want to be clear on the message. Thanks Are you creating a site template? Or a site definition?

STP vs ONET?
or 2010: WSP vs ONET?

I hear these terms used interchangably. I just want to be clear on the message.

Thanks

]]> By: Will Lawrence http://www.endusersharepoint.com/2009/10/29/sharepoint-site-template-for-jquery-and-scripting-resources-v01/comment-page-1/#comment-18470 Will Lawrence Sat, 31 Oct 2009 04:18:48 +0000 http://www.endusersharepoint.com/?p=3090#comment-18470 Mark, Here are a few suggestions: - Compliment jquery-ui with a nice .css file (jquery-ui-1.7.1.redmond.css) for modal dialog etc. - Include jquery.debugger.js and firebug-lite.js to aid developing. - And my latest favorite, jPointLoader.js. This will load jPoint-[version]-[compression].js where the user can change the variables in the file from their default of var version="latest", var compression="expanded". You can grab this write less, share more script from http://jPoint.codeplex.com. Thanks for your great effort. Mark,

Here are a few suggestions:

- Compliment jquery-ui with a nice .css file (jquery-ui-1.7.1.redmond.css) for modal dialog etc.

- Include jquery.debugger.js and firebug-lite.js to aid developing.

- And my latest favorite, jPointLoader.js. This will load jPoint-[version]-[compression].js where the user can change the variables in the file from their default of var version=”latest”, var compression=”expanded”. You can grab this write less, share more script from http://jPoint.codeplex.com.

Thanks for your great effort.

]]> By: Marc D Anderson http://www.endusersharepoint.com/2009/10/29/sharepoint-site-template-for-jquery-and-scripting-resources-v01/comment-page-1/#comment-18469 Marc D Anderson Sat, 31 Oct 2009 04:11:14 +0000 http://www.endusersharepoint.com/?p=3090#comment-18469 Someone pointed out to me that we can use the metadata in the Document Library to maintain version information. (Now why didn't I think of that???) That way, we can store multiple versions in the Document Library, but just use the chosen one. Maybe Jan Tielens' SmartTools jQueryLoader will be able to help with this at some point, but right now it doesn't look like it manages versions. All in all, this as the likelihood of creating an unholy mess due to dependencies, etc. M. Someone pointed out to me that we can use the metadata in the Document Library to maintain version information. (Now why didn’t I think of that???) That way, we can store multiple versions in the Document Library, but just use the chosen one. Maybe Jan Tielens’ SmartTools jQueryLoader will be able to help with this at some point, but right now it doesn’t look like it manages versions.

All in all, this as the likelihood of creating an unholy mess due to dependencies, etc.

M.

]]> By: Christophe http://www.endusersharepoint.com/2009/10/29/sharepoint-site-template-for-jquery-and-scripting-resources-v01/comment-page-1/#comment-18465 Christophe Sat, 31 Oct 2009 02:55:42 +0000 http://www.endusersharepoint.com/?p=3090#comment-18465 Marc and Mark - one needs to be careful with the versioning issue (and btw I wonder how SharePoint 2010 is going to address this). Lots of useful plugins are developed by individuals for a specific version of jQuery, and may break in the next version - I have experienced this several times. I think the right approach would be to keep both versioned and version-free names (just like Google does). Marc and Mark – one needs to be careful with the versioning issue (and btw I wonder how SharePoint 2010 is going to address this).
Lots of useful plugins are developed by individuals for a specific version of jQuery, and may break in the next version – I have experienced this several times. I think the right approach would be to keep both versioned and version-free names (just like Google does).

]]> By: EndUserSharePoint http://www.endusersharepoint.com/2009/10/29/sharepoint-site-template-for-jquery-and-scripting-resources-v01/comment-page-1/#comment-18440 EndUserSharePoint Fri, 30 Oct 2009 13:31:07 +0000 http://www.endusersharepoint.com/?p=3090#comment-18440 Eric - I'll take a quick look at jcharts for inclusion. At first glance, they want to charge $149.00 for me to include it in the template. idosp - Those are specific solutions being asked for. The purpose of the template is to provide you with all the resources needed in order to implement your own solutions. I will be providing solutions in other templates. Dave - Nice idea. I'll do that. By the way, Peter Allen has a comprehensive list of all the default SharePoint icons (WSS and MOSS) on his site. Very useful. http://www.bitsofsharepoint.com/ExamplePoint/Site/SharePointLayoutImages.aspx Eric – I’ll take a quick look at jcharts for inclusion. At first glance, they want to charge $149.00 for me to include it in the template.

idosp – Those are specific solutions being asked for. The purpose of the template is to provide you with all the resources needed in order to implement your own solutions. I will be providing solutions in other templates.

Dave – Nice idea. I’ll do that. By the way, Peter Allen has a comprehensive list of all the default SharePoint icons (WSS and MOSS) on his site. Very useful.

http://www.bitsofsharepoint.com/ExamplePoint/Site/SharePointLayoutImages.aspx

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