Comments on: EndUserSharePoint.com: An Uncertain Future http://www.endusersharepoint.com/2010/05/13/endusersharepoint-com-an-uncertain-future/ No GeekSpeak on SharePoint 2007 WSS and MOSS Mon, 27 Dec 2010 21:17:12 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Marc Anderson http://www.endusersharepoint.com/2010/05/13/endusersharepoint-com-an-uncertain-future/comment-page-1/#comment-78688 Marc Anderson Thu, 01 Jul 2010 02:02:53 +0000 http://www.endusersharepoint.com/?p=7800#comment-78688 Kim: Glad that my <a href="http://sympmarc.com/2010/04/14/the-middle-tier-manifesto-an-alternative-approach-to-development-with-microsoft-sharepoint/" rel="nofollow">Middle Tier Manifesto</a> was useful to you. If you'd like to learn more about Middle Tier development, you might want to check out my courses at the <a href="http://uspja.com" rel="nofollow">USPJ Academy</a>. M. Kim:

Glad that my Middle Tier Manifesto was useful to you. If you’d like to learn more about Middle Tier development, you might want to check out my courses at the USPJ Academy.

M.

]]> By: Kim Reist http://www.endusersharepoint.com/2010/05/13/endusersharepoint-com-an-uncertain-future/comment-page-1/#comment-77134 Kim Reist Thu, 24 Jun 2010 23:18:58 +0000 http://www.endusersharepoint.com/?p=7800#comment-77134 I am late to this conversation, but I have to add my dos pesos-- I consider myself a bona-fide End User, having been an event planner before I was assigned to learn how to use SharePoint and then teach it to everyone else at my company. What I found pretty quickly was if I wanted to customized Web Parts, create Data Views, etc.. "copy this code" became a real disadvantage without even the most cursory understanding of what the code was saying. You may not need to know how to write code in order to progress beyond out of the box web parts, but you do need to know how to read it. I spent some time getting basically grounded in HTML, CSS, Javascript/jQuery, and now I am doing the same with XML and XSL and a bit of C#. Even getting my feet wet in these languages has helped me immensely in getting the most out of the content I find on EUSP. I read a white paper on "Middle Tier Development" by Marc and it really hit home. I would love to see EUSP develop a track with that explicit goal--to attain these middle tier development skills for SharePoint. (For those who have that option, obviously). Thanks much and I wish I could have applied all these solutions sooner! I am just glad to still have them as a resource. I am late to this conversation, but I have to add my dos pesos– I consider myself a bona-fide End User, having been an event planner before I was assigned to learn how to use SharePoint and then teach it to everyone else at my company. What I found pretty quickly was if I wanted to customized Web Parts, create Data Views, etc.. “copy this code” became a real disadvantage without even the most cursory understanding of what the code was saying. You may not need to know how to write code in order to progress beyond out of the box web parts, but you do need to know how to read it.

I spent some time getting basically grounded in HTML, CSS, Javascript/jQuery, and now I am doing the same with XML and XSL and a bit of C#. Even getting my feet wet in these languages has helped me immensely in getting the most out of the content I find on EUSP. I read a white paper on “Middle Tier Development” by Marc and it really hit home. I would love to see EUSP develop a track with that explicit goal–to attain these middle tier development skills for SharePoint. (For those who have that option, obviously).

Thanks much and I wish I could have applied all these solutions sooner! I am just glad to still have them as a resource.

]]> By: The Transformation of EndUserSharePoint.com Begins | EndUserSharePoint 2010 http://www.endusersharepoint.com/2010/05/13/endusersharepoint-com-an-uncertain-future/comment-page-1/#comment-70898 The Transformation of EndUserSharePoint.com Begins | EndUserSharePoint 2010 Fri, 28 May 2010 19:00:39 +0000 http://www.endusersharepoint.com/?p=7800#comment-70898 [...] May 13th I wrote an article describing the growing pains EndUserSharePoint.com is having. We’re closing in on 1600 articles and 11,000 comments, making it nearly impossible [...] [...] May 13th I wrote an article describing the growing pains EndUserSharePoint.com is having. We’re closing in on 1600 articles and 11,000 comments, making it nearly impossible [...]

]]> By: The Transformation of EndUserSharePoint.com Begins | EndUserSharePoint.com http://www.endusersharepoint.com/2010/05/13/endusersharepoint-com-an-uncertain-future/comment-page-1/#comment-70600 The Transformation of EndUserSharePoint.com Begins | EndUserSharePoint.com Thu, 27 May 2010 15:29:57 +0000 http://www.endusersharepoint.com/?p=7800#comment-70600 [...] May 13th I wrote an article describing the growing pains EndUserSharePoint.com is having. We’re closing in on 1600 articles and 11,000 comments, making it nearly impossible [...] [...] May 13th I wrote an article describing the growing pains EndUserSharePoint.com is having. We’re closing in on 1600 articles and 11,000 comments, making it nearly impossible [...]

]]> By: Robin Witcher http://www.endusersharepoint.com/2010/05/13/endusersharepoint-com-an-uncertain-future/comment-page-1/#comment-70304 Robin Witcher Tue, 25 May 2010 23:18:58 +0000 http://www.endusersharepoint.com/?p=7800#comment-70304 I like that idea Dean! It would be very helpful to know how a major redesign is done. Gut feeling tells me that it's coming sooner than I might want it. Knowing I can find that information here at EUSP is a comforting thought indeed! I like that idea Dean! It would be very helpful to know how a major redesign is done. Gut feeling tells me that it’s coming sooner than I might want it. Knowing I can find that information here at EUSP is a comforting thought indeed!

]]> By: EUSP eBook Store: First SharePoint Title is Now Available | EndUserSharePoint.com http://www.endusersharepoint.com/2010/05/13/endusersharepoint-com-an-uncertain-future/comment-page-1/#comment-69342 EUSP eBook Store: First SharePoint Title is Now Available | EndUserSharePoint.com Thu, 20 May 2010 20:39:35 +0000 http://www.endusersharepoint.com/?p=7800#comment-69342 [...] you to everyone for all the encouragement following last week’s newsletter, An Uncertain Future. I can’t tell you the number of people who emailed, commented on the site or tracked me down [...] [...] you to everyone for all the encouragement following last week’s newsletter, An Uncertain Future. I can’t tell you the number of people who emailed, commented on the site or tracked me down [...]

]]> By: EndUserSharePoint http://www.endusersharepoint.com/2010/05/13/endusersharepoint-com-an-uncertain-future/comment-page-1/#comment-69285 EndUserSharePoint Thu, 20 May 2010 16:43:02 +0000 http://www.endusersharepoint.com/?p=7800#comment-69285 Yep, definitely documenting the process. Should be a fun one. -- Mark Yep, definitely documenting the process. Should be a fun one. — Mark

]]> By: Dawn Charette http://www.endusersharepoint.com/2010/05/13/endusersharepoint-com-an-uncertain-future/comment-page-1/#comment-69283 Dawn Charette Thu, 20 May 2010 16:14:04 +0000 http://www.endusersharepoint.com/?p=7800#comment-69283 I am a more recent follower of your site and it's content. While I have yet to implement any of the solutions I have read about, it has encouraged me to see what can be done and the possibilities are indeed endless! When your website content grows (as EndUserSharePoint.com has) and begins to encompass all aspects of what SharePoint can do, it is no surprise that reorganization of information will need to be addressed. Embracing that fact AND involving your users in that change will only multiply the usability of your site as well as solidify the loyalty of those of us who have been growing along with you. Thank you for considering us in the process. May I ask that you also include us on your SharePoint 2010 migration? Documentation on the process you used and what "surprises" popped up in the process would be extremely helpful and greatly appreciated. I am a more recent follower of your site and it’s content. While I have yet to implement any of the solutions I have read about, it has encouraged me to see what can be done and the possibilities are indeed endless! When your website content grows (as EndUserSharePoint.com has) and begins to encompass all aspects of what SharePoint can do, it is no surprise that reorganization of information will need to be addressed. Embracing that fact AND involving your users in that change will only multiply the usability of your site as well as solidify the loyalty of those of us who have been growing along with you. Thank you for considering us in the process. May I ask that you also include us on your SharePoint 2010 migration? Documentation on the process you used and what “surprises” popped up in the process would be extremely helpful and greatly appreciated.

]]> By: Trudy http://www.endusersharepoint.com/2010/05/13/endusersharepoint-com-an-uncertain-future/comment-page-1/#comment-69275 Trudy Thu, 20 May 2010 14:38:13 +0000 http://www.endusersharepoint.com/?p=7800#comment-69275 OK I have been working on a big sharepoint project lately, and I am starting to even dream about sharepoint. During on of those dreams I refered to a "silo" on EUSP which i called the KISS section for Keep It SImple SharePoint. In this section new users, and those who have had sharepoint dumped in their laps without any idea what to do or where to start., could go to get instruction on how to set up and use a list, library, workspace, ect. I am not sure if I need to cut back on the coffee, or just get some sleep, but I thought you might get a grin out of it. lol OK I have been working on a big sharepoint project lately, and I am starting to even dream about sharepoint. During on of those dreams I refered to a “silo” on EUSP which i called the KISS section for Keep It SImple SharePoint. In this section new users, and those who have had sharepoint dumped in their laps without any idea what to do or where to start., could go to get instruction on how to set up and use a list, library, workspace, ect.

I am not sure if I need to cut back on the coffee, or just get some sleep, but I thought you might get a grin out of it. lol

]]> By: Larry W. Virden http://www.endusersharepoint.com/2010/05/13/endusersharepoint-com-an-uncertain-future/comment-page-1/#comment-69269 Larry W. Virden Thu, 20 May 2010 13:15:49 +0000 http://www.endusersharepoint.com/?p=7800#comment-69269 For a year or more now I've said to those willing to listen that the biggest complaint I've heard from people newly exposed to SharePoint was "but what would I do with it". The training that I typically see provided reminds me of people being taught the names and functions of the items in a kitchen. This is a stove,a blender, a food processor, a mixer, a beater, a frying pan - but without introducing the idea of planning a menu, selecting ingredients, and teaching how to saute, broil, poach, set a table, present the food on the plate, etc. For a year or more now I’ve said to those willing to listen that the biggest complaint I’ve heard from people newly exposed to SharePoint was “but what would I do with it”. The training that I typically see provided reminds me of people being taught the names and functions of the items in a kitchen. This is a stove,a blender, a food processor, a mixer, a beater, a frying pan – but without introducing the idea of planning a menu, selecting ingredients, and teaching how to saute, broil, poach, set a table, present the food on the plate, etc.

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