Comments on: Which SharePoint Conference Should I Attend? http://www.endusersharepoint.com/2010/06/08/which-sharepoint-conference-should-i-attend/ No GeekSpeak on SharePoint 2007 WSS and MOSS Mon, 14 Jun 2010 23:17:59 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Jay http://www.endusersharepoint.com/2010/06/08/which-sharepoint-conference-should-i-attend/comment-page-1/#comment-73477 Jay Fri, 11 Jun 2010 13:25:47 +0000 http://www.endusersharepoint.com/?p=8389#comment-73477 Tony some of the Army allows access to social networking sites but where I am they don't. Not sure why but as I said above it's a little frustrating sometimes when I am trying to figure something out and I can't get to a blog post at Wordpress or Blogspot. Heck I had to go buy a domain and host my own blog just so I could get to it during working hours. Twitter is quickly becoming another issue. It's amazing how quickly that twitter has become a resource for help as opposed to an avenue for slacking. Would love to have full access to it but that'll never happen here. Now that being said I can read/respond to twiiter from LinkedIn but I try not to do that much. :-) Tony some of the Army allows access to social networking sites but where I am they don’t. Not sure why but as I said above it’s a little frustrating sometimes when I am trying to figure something out and I can’t get to a blog post at Wordpress or Blogspot. Heck I had to go buy a domain and host my own blog just so I could get to it during working hours.

Twitter is quickly becoming another issue. It’s amazing how quickly that twitter has become a resource for help as opposed to an avenue for slacking. Would love to have full access to it but that’ll never happen here. Now that being said I can read/respond to twiiter from LinkedIn but I try not to do that much. :-)

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By: Jay http://www.endusersharepoint.com/2010/06/08/which-sharepoint-conference-should-i-attend/comment-page-1/#comment-73475 Jay Fri, 11 Jun 2010 13:18:00 +0000 http://www.endusersharepoint.com/?p=8389#comment-73475 Dave, I read your blog post last night and that's awesome. It's great that you're taking that approach and I know that those of us "stuck" in a 2007 environment appreciate it more than most would imagine. I wish more people (MICROSOFT) would think along those lines. I'll definitely have to take a closer look at SPTechCon, that might be something I can slip into the budget for next year. Bill, I wouldn't expect you (or anyone else for that matter) to make a major change of that nature this close to the conference. I do think it's something to keep in mind for next time. Adding a track for 2007 content would be good and I think that the majority of your presenters have sessions they could do that would fit the bill. They may be "dated" but as Mark pointed out in an article a while back the more that someone does a session the more refined it becomes and the inherent value of the information being presented goes up. On the "secure" conference, not sure that's what I had in mind. I do think there would be some value in maybe some post-conference sessions or a track focused on government/DoD the next time BPC is in DC. That expands your potential audience fairly significantly IMO to government employees (CIO's, deputies, etc...) that might not otherwise be inclined to attend. I would also agree that a conference that is focused strictly on 2007 content wouldn't be a draw and that's not what I was suggesting. But I do think think that a complete lack of 2007 content eliminates a huge potential audience. If I have to justify attendence to a conference I have a far better chance of getting approval when there is something that will directly benefit my employer/customer now as opposed to a couple of years down the road. The other thing that BPC has going for it is that in some cases sessions really are version "non-specific". The underlying concepts related to search findability, governance, information architecture are essentially the same or very similar regardless of the product version. Thanks to both of you for your responses. As Tony pointed out it's great that people like yourselves are this engaged and involved in the community! Dave, I read your blog post last night and that’s awesome. It’s great that you’re taking that approach and I know that those of us “stuck” in a 2007 environment appreciate it more than most would imagine. I wish more people (MICROSOFT) would think along those lines.

I’ll definitely have to take a closer look at SPTechCon, that might be something I can slip into the budget for next year.

Bill, I wouldn’t expect you (or anyone else for that matter) to make a major change of that nature this close to the conference. I do think it’s something to keep in mind for next time.

Adding a track for 2007 content would be good and I think that the majority of your presenters have sessions they could do that would fit the bill. They may be “dated” but as Mark pointed out in an article a while back the more that someone does a session the more refined it becomes and the inherent value of the information being presented goes up.

On the “secure” conference, not sure that’s what I had in mind. I do think there would be some value in maybe some post-conference sessions or a track focused on government/DoD the next time BPC is in DC. That expands your potential audience fairly significantly IMO to government employees (CIO’s, deputies, etc…) that might not otherwise be inclined to attend.

I would also agree that a conference that is focused strictly on 2007 content wouldn’t be a draw and that’s not what I was suggesting. But I do think think that a complete lack of 2007 content eliminates a huge potential audience. If I have to justify attendence to a conference I have a far better chance of getting approval when there is something that will directly benefit my employer/customer now as opposed to a couple of years down the road.

The other thing that BPC has going for it is that in some cases sessions really are version “non-specific”. The underlying concepts related to search findability, governance, information architecture are essentially the same or very similar regardless of the product version.

Thanks to both of you for your responses. As Tony pointed out it’s great that people like yourselves are this engaged and involved in the community!

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By: sharepoinTony http://www.endusersharepoint.com/2010/06/08/which-sharepoint-conference-should-i-attend/comment-page-1/#comment-73343 sharepoinTony Thu, 10 Jun 2010 20:04:36 +0000 http://www.endusersharepoint.com/?p=8389#comment-73343 See what I mean about the SharePoint Community being awesome - here we have Bill English and David Rubinstein actively taking part in this discussion and addressing the topics/concerns raised here. You guys are fantastic and are perfect examples of what makes the SharePoint community so great. Thank You. See what I mean about the SharePoint Community being awesome – here we have Bill English and David Rubinstein actively taking part in this discussion and addressing the topics/concerns raised here. You guys are fantastic and are perfect examples of what makes the SharePoint community so great. Thank You.

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By: Bill English http://www.endusersharepoint.com/2010/06/08/which-sharepoint-conference-should-i-attend/comment-page-1/#comment-73335 Bill English Thu, 10 Jun 2010 19:22:09 +0000 http://www.endusersharepoint.com/?p=8389#comment-73335 A conference focused only on 2007 at this point wouldn't sell well, IMHO. However, I hear your message and will look into doing a 2007 track at the BPC. Since most of the speakers and sessions are selected, I can't promise this, so don't hold your breath. As much as some want additional content, the market is usually larger for cutting edge content. We have alot of people looking at 2010 implementations in 2011 and are using the BPC in August to help them with their upgrade/deployment planning as well as getting a better understanding of the product in general. A conference focused only on 2007 at this point wouldn’t sell well, IMHO. However, I hear your message and will look into doing a 2007 track at the BPC. Since most of the speakers and sessions are selected, I can’t promise this, so don’t hold your breath.

As much as some want additional content, the market is usually larger for cutting edge content. We have alot of people looking at 2010 implementations in 2011 and are using the BPC in August to help them with their upgrade/deployment planning as well as getting a better understanding of the product in general.

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By: Bill English http://www.endusersharepoint.com/2010/06/08/which-sharepoint-conference-should-i-attend/comment-page-1/#comment-73334 Bill English Thu, 10 Jun 2010 19:18:50 +0000 http://www.endusersharepoint.com/?p=8389#comment-73334 To help those with budget, we're looking into some ways to help with the budget issue for the Best Practices Conference. If you have ideas we should consider, please ping me offline. To help those with budget, we’re looking into some ways to help with the budget issue for the Best Practices Conference. If you have ideas we should consider, please ping me offline.

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By: Bill English http://www.endusersharepoint.com/2010/06/08/which-sharepoint-conference-should-i-attend/comment-page-1/#comment-73333 Bill English Thu, 10 Jun 2010 19:17:00 +0000 http://www.endusersharepoint.com/?p=8389#comment-73333 We looked at doing a "secure" SharePoint conference with some folks at the DoD and Summit 7 and Blackblade Systems at a secure facility, but since all security is based on a "need to know", we didn't think we could pull it off. I'd be game to develop a track at the BPC for Army/DoD. If interested, ping me offline. We looked at doing a “secure” SharePoint conference with some folks at the DoD and Summit 7 and Blackblade Systems at a secure facility, but since all security is based on a “need to know”, we didn’t think we could pull it off.

I’d be game to develop a track at the BPC for Army/DoD. If interested, ping me offline.

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By: Bill English http://www.endusersharepoint.com/2010/06/08/which-sharepoint-conference-should-i-attend/comment-page-1/#comment-73332 Bill English Thu, 10 Jun 2010 19:11:48 +0000 http://www.endusersharepoint.com/?p=8389#comment-73332 While the Best Practices Conference is focused on 2010, you'll find that many of the best practices presented will be applicable to 2007. Also, because our speaker:attendee ratio is lower than most other conferences, you're more likely to get some time with one or more speakers and ask all the 2007 questions you want to ask. In fact, I'll make sure that we have at least one Ask the Experts panel discussion focused on 2007. Will this help? While the Best Practices Conference is focused on 2010, you’ll find that many of the best practices presented will be applicable to 2007. Also, because our speaker:attendee ratio is lower than most other conferences, you’re more likely to get some time with one or more speakers and ask all the 2007 questions you want to ask. In fact, I’ll make sure that we have at least one Ask the Experts panel discussion focused on 2007.

Will this help?

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By: Dave http://www.endusersharepoint.com/2010/06/08/which-sharepoint-conference-should-i-attend/comment-page-1/#comment-73315 Dave Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:13:03 +0000 http://www.endusersharepoint.com/?p=8389#comment-73315 Hello Jay.. this is Dave from SPTechCon. I'd say the majority of pitches I got for sessions for the upcoming SPTechCon in October were for 2010. But if you read my entry on www.sptechblog.com, you'll see that we've come to accept that many (perhaps even the majority) of SharePoint users won't be racing to 2010 right away, and so for our February event this year, and for the fall conference, we've ensured that we have a nice mix of sessions for the various users of SharePoint, on the various versions of SharePoint. Hello Jay.. this is Dave from SPTechCon. I’d say the majority of pitches I got for sessions for the upcoming SPTechCon in October were for 2010. But if you read my entry on http://www.sptechblog.com, you’ll see that we’ve come to accept that many (perhaps even the majority) of SharePoint users won’t be racing to 2010 right away, and so for our February event this year, and for the fall conference, we’ve ensured that we have a nice mix of sessions for the various users of SharePoint, on the various versions of SharePoint.

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By: sharepoinTony http://www.endusersharepoint.com/2010/06/08/which-sharepoint-conference-should-i-attend/comment-page-1/#comment-73312 sharepoinTony Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:00:31 +0000 http://www.endusersharepoint.com/?p=8389#comment-73312 David Rubinstein of SPTechCon responded in a blog post: http://www.sptechblog.com/2010/06/not-kicking-moss-2007-to-curb.html Frank & Jay -Wow, when I was working for the Marine Corps none of the social networking sites were allowed - big change. I agree that how it is used can be scary, undoubtedly a problem will arise unless enough training similar to the PII requirement is implemented. David Rubinstein of SPTechCon responded in a blog post: http://www.sptechblog.com/2010/06/not-kicking-moss-2007-to-curb.html

Frank & Jay -Wow, when I was working for the Marine Corps none of the social networking sites were allowed – big change. I agree that how it is used can be scary, undoubtedly a problem will arise unless enough training similar to the PII requirement is implemented.

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By: Jay http://www.endusersharepoint.com/2010/06/08/which-sharepoint-conference-should-i-attend/comment-page-1/#comment-73297 Jay Thu, 10 Jun 2010 15:40:29 +0000 http://www.endusersharepoint.com/?p=8389#comment-73297 Tony that's a good point. Most of the security related sessions you see are pretty high level (user permissions/management etc...). As for CAC most contracting organizations see the cost, training and inherent problems caused by a CAC implementation and go screaming and running in the opposite direction. Having been involved in implementing CAC authentication in a SPS2003 environment I can tell if that I owuld have joined the stampede running away if I could have. Tony that’s a good point. Most of the security related sessions you see are pretty high level (user permissions/management etc…).

As for CAC most contracting organizations see the cost, training and inherent problems caused by a CAC implementation and go screaming and running in the opposite direction. Having been involved in implementing CAC authentication in a SPS2003 environment I can tell if that I owuld have joined the stampede running away if I could have.

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