Comments on: What Should Microsoft Do for the SharePoint Community – My Opinions http://www.endusersharepoint.com/2010/11/23/what-should-microsoft-do-for-the-sharepoint-community-%e2%80%93-my-opinions/ No GeekSpeak on SharePoint 2007 WSS and MOSS Mon, 27 Dec 2010 21:17:12 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Marc Anderson http://www.endusersharepoint.com/2010/11/23/what-should-microsoft-do-for-the-sharepoint-community-%e2%80%93-my-opinions/comment-page-1/#comment-115153 Marc Anderson Fri, 03 Dec 2010 17:16:23 +0000 http://www.endusersharepoint.com/?p=10768#comment-115153 Talbott: What the heck are DPEs and TSs? I know those names, but not those acronyms. M. Talbott:

What the heck are DPEs and TSs? I know those names, but not those acronyms.

M.

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By: Talbott Crowell http://www.endusersharepoint.com/2010/11/23/what-should-microsoft-do-for-the-sharepoint-community-%e2%80%93-my-opinions/comment-page-1/#comment-115027 Talbott Crowell Fri, 03 Dec 2010 04:00:54 +0000 http://www.endusersharepoint.com/?p=10768#comment-115027 Rock on Marc. Awesome post. I totally agree. We are lucky in New England to have amazing support from the local DPE's and TS's from Microsoft such as Chris Bowen, Jim O'Neil, Dan Stolts, and Chris Bortlik. Not sure what its like in the other regions around the world but Microsoft has been great to the community here in the Northeast USA. Rock on Marc. Awesome post. I totally agree. We are lucky in New England to have amazing support from the local DPE’s and TS’s from Microsoft such as Chris Bowen, Jim O’Neil, Dan Stolts, and Chris Bortlik. Not sure what its like in the other regions around the world but Microsoft has been great to the community here in the Northeast USA.

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By: Jose Antonio Morales http://www.endusersharepoint.com/2010/11/23/what-should-microsoft-do-for-the-sharepoint-community-%e2%80%93-my-opinions/comment-page-1/#comment-114622 Jose Antonio Morales Tue, 30 Nov 2010 22:14:29 +0000 http://www.endusersharepoint.com/?p=10768#comment-114622 I had more than once problems with MSFT when trying to organize SP conferences or events. I even had the feeling that they thought of me and my company as competing with them. I believe Microsoft should let the community grow by: 1. Staying away but not "ignoring" the community activities. 2. Providing constantly higher quality information. 3. Supporting in the backstage community leaders: hosting, etc. 4. Identifying and motivating new community leaders. Microsoft should take the role of a facilitator. Not necessarily a sponsor. Remember that the opposite of love isn't hate, it is indifference. I had more than once problems with MSFT when trying to organize SP conferences or events. I even had the feeling that they thought of me and my company as competing with them.
I believe Microsoft should let the community grow by:

1. Staying away but not “ignoring” the community activities.
2. Providing constantly higher quality information.
3. Supporting in the backstage community leaders: hosting, etc.
4. Identifying and motivating new community leaders.

Microsoft should take the role of a facilitator. Not necessarily a sponsor.

Remember that the opposite of love isn’t hate, it is indifference.

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By: Chris Bortlik http://www.endusersharepoint.com/2010/11/23/what-should-microsoft-do-for-the-sharepoint-community-%e2%80%93-my-opinions/comment-page-1/#comment-113420 Chris Bortlik Wed, 24 Nov 2010 21:14:40 +0000 http://www.endusersharepoint.com/?p=10768#comment-113420 Totally agree. Great points. I've participated in many of the SharePoint Saturdays and user groups in the Northeast and online. I'm always impressed and grateful for all of the partners and customers that donate their personal time to help the community and am always happy to do my small part to help. Totally agree. Great points. I’ve participated in many of the SharePoint Saturdays and user groups in the Northeast and online. I’m always impressed and grateful for all of the partners and customers that donate their personal time to help the community and am always happy to do my small part to help.

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By: Christophe http://www.endusersharepoint.com/2010/11/23/what-should-microsoft-do-for-the-sharepoint-community-%e2%80%93-my-opinions/comment-page-1/#comment-113352 Christophe Wed, 24 Nov 2010 13:16:31 +0000 http://www.endusersharepoint.com/?p=10768#comment-113352 @Veronique: 100% agree. Marc initially published this article on his blog, and I made a similar comment. @Veronique: 100% agree. Marc initially published this article on his blog, and I made a similar comment.

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By: Christian Buckley http://www.endusersharepoint.com/2010/11/23/what-should-microsoft-do-for-the-sharepoint-community-%e2%80%93-my-opinions/comment-page-1/#comment-113256 Christian Buckley Wed, 24 Nov 2010 00:32:46 +0000 http://www.endusersharepoint.com/?p=10768#comment-113256 And a word of advice to anyone at Microsoft who is involved with SharePoint in any way -- be aware of what is happening in the community! I am continually amazed to talk to regional marketing people who have never heard of SharePoint Saturday or SharePint, much less the major community portals and other online resources. I undertand its a bit like drinking from a firehose, but if you want to support the SharePoint community, get more involved in the SharePoint community and be aware of what is happening in the space. And a word of advice to anyone at Microsoft who is involved with SharePoint in any way — be aware of what is happening in the community! I am continually amazed to talk to regional marketing people who have never heard of SharePoint Saturday or SharePint, much less the major community portals and other online resources. I undertand its a bit like drinking from a firehose, but if you want to support the SharePoint community, get more involved in the SharePoint community and be aware of what is happening in the space.

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By: Veronique Palmer http://www.endusersharepoint.com/2010/11/23/what-should-microsoft-do-for-the-sharepoint-community-%e2%80%93-my-opinions/comment-page-1/#comment-113228 Veronique Palmer Tue, 23 Nov 2010 20:46:01 +0000 http://www.endusersharepoint.com/?p=10768#comment-113228 Ditto Marc and Dave. Really awesome post. There really is a whole lot more going on out there than just the usual suspects. Because I have a very good relationship with Microsoft in my region, I don't really want to complain - but I would like to see more focus on business users. I've been told ad lib by countless people that Microsoft doesn't put any focus on business user needs because it doesn't sell licenses. I must respectfully disagree with that if it is true, because us business user evangelists get business users excited about their jobs and the technology and get them to use it every single day. This gets licenses renewed and upgraded in the long term because the people on the ground then refuse to live without it. So my only little request would be to PLEASE PLEASE give more support for users, vendors, consultants and communities driving business user adoption. It is all about the techies 99% of the time, but there are over 100million non techies out there that are desperate for our help - and it's near impossible to get community support in this space. I just don't understand it. IMHO. Ditto Marc and Dave. Really awesome post. There really is a whole lot more going on out there than just the usual suspects. Because I have a very good relationship with Microsoft in my region, I don’t really want to complain – but I would like to see more focus on business users.

I’ve been told ad lib by countless people that Microsoft doesn’t put any focus on business user needs because it doesn’t sell licenses. I must respectfully disagree with that if it is true, because us business user evangelists get business users excited about their jobs and the technology and get them to use it every single day. This gets licenses renewed and upgraded in the long term because the people on the ground then refuse to live without it.

So my only little request would be to PLEASE PLEASE give more support for users, vendors, consultants and communities driving business user adoption. It is all about the techies 99% of the time, but there are over 100million non techies out there that are desperate for our help – and it’s near impossible to get community support in this space. I just don’t understand it.

IMHO.

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By: Richard Harbridge http://www.endusersharepoint.com/2010/11/23/what-should-microsoft-do-for-the-sharepoint-community-%e2%80%93-my-opinions/comment-page-1/#comment-113215 Richard Harbridge Tue, 23 Nov 2010 19:00:10 +0000 http://www.endusersharepoint.com/?p=10768#comment-113215 Always good to see a passionate plea for extra support. ++ I totally agree that the community benefits Microsoft as much as it benefits the community membership. However I am hesitant to involve 'reward' or even 'supportive' finances of any kind from Microsoft (specifically if they are substantial). I just fear that when money starts exchanging hands the focus begins to change. This goes for monetary rewards too in my humble opinion. Big Note: Prizes for conferences, facilities, or free licenses etc are all totally cool in my opinion. I just mean literally cash/liquid funds. Here's what I would like to see more of: 1. Microsoft needs to encourage/actively support their staff participating at these events more (money can totally change hands here!). I absolutely agree that we need more presence at the community events. People have Microsoft questions all the time! In fact even have some sales guys there to answer licensing questions and I bet it will return value for the business. 2. Microsoft needs to publically acknowledge the community on a more regular basis. At Conferences, at events, in news, honestly even press releases and everywhere. Why? Because this reduces your support costs, leads to higher technology implementation satisfaction levels and encourages participation and awareness of the communities (which Microsoft technically does support quite actively). 3. I think the MVP process is an effective one (though I admit I have never been involved in it) in that it rewards technical proficiency and helpful community contribution. I am not saying it's perfect (nothing really is) but it's better than many other systems I have seen and have yet to meet an MVP I didn't really admire for their knowledge, skill, or contribution. To the general comment that it doesn't apply to non technical people I also agree. Overall not sure where I stand with whether it should/shouldn't apply to non technical. I <3 non technical contributors (which is where I spend most of my time contributing) but at the same time MVP's are expected to know a fair amount about the product (not the MCM level but certainly quite a bit) so... I find it difficult to say MVP is the right reward for non technical contributors. I am super curious to understand what other people think though. Lastly a point to all communities around reward structures... Communities: You can reward contributions too! At the Toronto SharePoint User Group as a group we decided we would create the "Community Contributor of the Year" Award or something like that which could be voted by the community and acknowledge the amazing participation great members make. Earlier when I talked about the non technical we could always band together and come up with interesting ways of voting and creating new structures for acknowledging awesome people (especially as we grow/mature as a community). Hopefully this made sense - Just thought I would toss out some additional input as I am absolutely loving how much attention we have been bringing to the community recently. :) Always good to see a passionate plea for extra support. ++

I totally agree that the community benefits Microsoft as much as it benefits the community membership.

However I am hesitant to involve ‘reward’ or even ’supportive’ finances of any kind from Microsoft (specifically if they are substantial). I just fear that when money starts exchanging hands the focus begins to change. This goes for monetary rewards too in my humble opinion.

Big Note: Prizes for conferences, facilities, or free licenses etc are all totally cool in my opinion. I just mean literally cash/liquid funds.

Here’s what I would like to see more of:
1. Microsoft needs to encourage/actively support their staff participating at these events more (money can totally change hands here!).

I absolutely agree that we need more presence at the community events. People have Microsoft questions all the time! In fact even have some sales guys there to answer licensing questions and I bet it will return value for the business.

2. Microsoft needs to publically acknowledge the community on a more regular basis. At Conferences, at events, in news, honestly even press releases and everywhere. Why? Because this reduces your support costs, leads to higher technology implementation satisfaction levels and encourages participation and awareness of the communities (which Microsoft technically does support quite actively).

3. I think the MVP process is an effective one (though I admit I have never been involved in it) in that it rewards technical proficiency and helpful community contribution. I am not saying it’s perfect (nothing really is) but it’s better than many other systems I have seen and have yet to meet an MVP I didn’t really admire for their knowledge, skill, or contribution.

To the general comment that it doesn’t apply to non technical people I also agree.

Overall not sure where I stand with whether it should/shouldn’t apply to non technical. I <3 non technical contributors (which is where I spend most of my time contributing) but at the same time MVP's are expected to know a fair amount about the product (not the MCM level but certainly quite a bit) so… I find it difficult to say MVP is the right reward for non technical contributors.

I am super curious to understand what other people think though.

Lastly a point to all communities around reward structures…

Communities: You can reward contributions too! At the Toronto SharePoint User Group as a group we decided we would create the "Community Contributor of the Year" Award or something like that which could be voted by the community and acknowledge the amazing participation great members make.

Earlier when I talked about the non technical we could always band together and come up with interesting ways of voting and creating new structures for acknowledging awesome people (especially as we grow/mature as a community).

Hopefully this made sense – Just thought I would toss out some additional input as I am absolutely loving how much attention we have been bringing to the community recently. :)

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By: Dave Coleman http://www.endusersharepoint.com/2010/11/23/what-should-microsoft-do-for-the-sharepoint-community-%e2%80%93-my-opinions/comment-page-1/#comment-113204 Dave Coleman Tue, 23 Nov 2010 17:22:24 +0000 http://www.endusersharepoint.com/?p=10768#comment-113204 Great article Marc and i could not agree more. Dave Great article Marc and i could not agree more.

Dave

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