Comments on: How Much Does SharePoint Cost? http://www.endusersharepoint.com/2010/12/02/how-much-does-sharepoint-cost/ No GeekSpeak on SharePoint 2007 WSS and MOSS Thu, 20 Jan 2011 15:31:18 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Chris Wright http://www.endusersharepoint.com/2010/12/02/how-much-does-sharepoint-cost/comment-page-1/#comment-115588 Chris Wright Mon, 06 Dec 2010 10:18:22 +0000 http://www.endusersharepoint.com/?p=10830#comment-115588 NIce post, well written. I think a lot of people struggle with the basics of costing SharePoint, esp license costs (which to be a bit of a dark art anyway). I've linked to your post over at by blog: www.sharepointblog.co.uk NIce post, well written. I think a lot of people struggle with the basics of costing SharePoint, esp license costs (which to be a bit of a dark art anyway). I’ve linked to your post over at by blog: http://www.sharepointblog.co.uk

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By: Christian Buckley http://www.endusersharepoint.com/2010/12/02/how-much-does-sharepoint-cost/comment-page-1/#comment-115159 Christian Buckley Fri, 03 Dec 2010 17:46:08 +0000 http://www.endusersharepoint.com/?p=10830#comment-115159 It just depends on what you want to do within SharePoint. You rbasic collaboration package with team sites, document libraries, etc may work for a while, but many companies quickly find that they hit the limitations of what can be supported within the BPOS platform and want more. Never plan out your SharePoint environment by looking at what if offered in the hosted solution. Start with a requirements analysis, develop your use cases, and THEN investigate the best way to meet those requirements. BPOS may be inexpensive, but what is the cost to support the capabilities and business processes that do not map? What is the actual cost of BPOS + the extras? It just depends on what you want to do within SharePoint. You rbasic collaboration package with team sites, document libraries, etc may work for a while, but many companies quickly find that they hit the limitations of what can be supported within the BPOS platform and want more. Never plan out your SharePoint environment by looking at what if offered in the hosted solution. Start with a requirements analysis, develop your use cases, and THEN investigate the best way to meet those requirements. BPOS may be inexpensive, but what is the cost to support the capabilities and business processes that do not map? What is the actual cost of BPOS + the extras?

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By: EndUserSharePoint http://www.endusersharepoint.com/2010/12/02/how-much-does-sharepoint-cost/comment-page-1/#comment-115108 EndUserSharePoint Fri, 03 Dec 2010 15:16:24 +0000 http://www.endusersharepoint.com/?p=10830#comment-115108 What's your address, so I can ship you a six pack and get an article out of you? Your objective experience is greatly appreciated here. Thanks. -- Marki What’s your address, so I can ship you a six pack and get an article out of you? Your objective experience is greatly appreciated here. Thanks. — Marki

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By: Russell Wright http://www.endusersharepoint.com/2010/12/02/how-much-does-sharepoint-cost/comment-page-1/#comment-115107 Russell Wright Fri, 03 Dec 2010 15:09:55 +0000 http://www.endusersharepoint.com/?p=10830#comment-115107 Having experience with ERP systems (such as SAP) and SharePoint from the STS 1.0 days, I'm finding that SharePoint is becoming more like SAP from a cost and implementation complexity perspective. When implementing a large system in a large organization, I always figure 5 to 10x for the cost of implementation and support over the cost of s/w acquisition...and this doesn't include ongoing maintenance costs. For example (fairly realistic), SAP licenses might cost $40M but the real cost of implementation is >$200M (more like $250M). For SharePoint, the infrastructure and licensing may cost $250K, but you'll probably spend well over $1M if you implement any significant enterprise level apps. Plus, it's hard to keep track of the costs associated by the end users building their departmental solutions in SharePoint, so you'll probably never know the actual cost. However, in the end, I believe there is plenty of ROI to be gained by replacing many other systems and "SharePoint-tizing" business processes. Short repsonse...needs several beers for more details... Having experience with ERP systems (such as SAP) and SharePoint from the STS 1.0 days, I’m finding that SharePoint is becoming more like SAP from a cost and implementation complexity perspective.

When implementing a large system in a large organization, I always figure 5 to 10x for the cost of implementation and support over the cost of s/w acquisition…and this doesn’t include ongoing maintenance costs.

For example (fairly realistic), SAP licenses might cost $40M but the real cost of implementation is >$200M (more like $250M).

For SharePoint, the infrastructure and licensing may cost $250K, but you’ll probably spend well over $1M if you implement any significant enterprise level apps. Plus, it’s hard to keep track of the costs associated by the end users building their departmental solutions in SharePoint, so you’ll probably never know the actual cost.

However, in the end, I believe there is plenty of ROI to be gained by replacing many other systems and “SharePoint-tizing” business processes.

Short repsonse…needs several beers for more details…

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By: Scott D http://www.endusersharepoint.com/2010/12/02/how-much-does-sharepoint-cost/comment-page-1/#comment-115002 Scott D Thu, 02 Dec 2010 20:41:49 +0000 http://www.endusersharepoint.com/?p=10830#comment-115002 As to pricing of Microsoft BPOS (SharePoint Online), it is very interesting. Pricing to gain entry is very low ($10/user per month for not just SharePoint but also Exchange, Activesync, Livemeeting/OCS) and the baseline functionality (based on MOSS 2007) is very powerful but they seem to get you storage. They only allocate 250MB (yes, megabytes) per user into a pooled "SharePoint storage amount." For my organization of 20 users, we have 35GB of content, which chalks up to a not-unreasonable, but not inconsequential, additional $125 per month. So, basically we're talking $325 a month for 20 users. Seems like a good deal and not so difficult to have positive ROI. As to pricing of Microsoft BPOS (SharePoint Online), it is very interesting. Pricing to gain entry is very low ($10/user per month for not just SharePoint but also Exchange, Activesync, Livemeeting/OCS) and the baseline functionality (based on MOSS 2007) is very powerful but they seem to get you storage. They only allocate 250MB (yes, megabytes) per user into a pooled “SharePoint storage amount.” For my organization of 20 users, we have 35GB of content, which chalks up to a not-unreasonable, but not inconsequential, additional $125 per month.

So, basically we’re talking $325 a month for 20 users. Seems like a good deal and not so difficult to have positive ROI.

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By: martin http://www.endusersharepoint.com/2010/12/02/how-much-does-sharepoint-cost/comment-page-1/#comment-114990 martin Thu, 02 Dec 2010 19:22:38 +0000 http://www.endusersharepoint.com/?p=10830#comment-114990 Also, you will need SQL Server license and SQL Server User/Device CALs, if bundled SQL Express 1GB RAM and 10GB DB size maximums are not enough for your environment. SQL Standard costs about $13000 and each SQL cal about $300. Also, you will need SQL Server license and SQL Server User/Device CALs, if bundled SQL Express 1GB RAM and 10GB DB size maximums are not enough for your environment. SQL Standard costs about $13000 and each SQL cal about $300.

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By: Jason MacKenzie http://www.endusersharepoint.com/2010/12/02/how-much-does-sharepoint-cost/comment-page-1/#comment-114988 Jason MacKenzie Thu, 02 Dec 2010 18:55:32 +0000 http://www.endusersharepoint.com/?p=10830#comment-114988 Totally agree with you Richard. I'd be very curious what percentage of organizations actually recoup their investment. I'm betting not many. Of course this is certainly not SharePoint specific but rather a result or organizations purchasing software platforms with the expectation that it will magically transform them into something they aren't. Totally agree with you Richard. I’d be very curious what percentage of organizations actually recoup their investment. I’m betting not many. Of course this is certainly not SharePoint specific but rather a result or organizations purchasing software platforms with the expectation that it will magically transform them into something they aren’t.

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By: Richard Harbridge http://www.endusersharepoint.com/2010/12/02/how-much-does-sharepoint-cost/comment-page-1/#comment-114986 Richard Harbridge Thu, 02 Dec 2010 17:53:24 +0000 http://www.endusersharepoint.com/?p=10830#comment-114986 Noted. I have been wanting to write up a series of good posts on this with a number of example scenarios. Perhaps I will re-prioritize and see if I can get something out soon (or perhaps early next year). Noted.

I have been wanting to write up a series of good posts on this with a number of example scenarios. Perhaps I will re-prioritize and see if I can get something out soon (or perhaps early next year).

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By: Richard Harbridge http://www.endusersharepoint.com/2010/12/02/how-much-does-sharepoint-cost/comment-page-1/#comment-114985 Richard Harbridge Thu, 02 Dec 2010 17:51:43 +0000 http://www.endusersharepoint.com/?p=10830#comment-114985 Awesome point! ++ From Hosters (Examples: Rackspace, FPWeb, etc) to more SaaS based models like SharePoint Online there are a number of alternative hosted models that can be used. The pricing can get really complicated around licensing then too if you are SPLA and begin getting into cloud based services (like provisioning Amazon EC2 instances) and a SaaS service of your own. Nice catch John! Awesome point! ++

From Hosters (Examples: Rackspace, FPWeb, etc) to more SaaS based models like SharePoint Online there are a number of alternative hosted models that can be used.

The pricing can get really complicated around licensing then too if you are SPLA and begin getting into cloud based services (like provisioning Amazon EC2 instances) and a SaaS service of your own.

Nice catch John!

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By: EndUserSharePoint http://www.endusersharepoint.com/2010/12/02/how-much-does-sharepoint-cost/comment-page-1/#comment-114973 EndUserSharePoint Thu, 02 Dec 2010 16:30:41 +0000 http://www.endusersharepoint.com/?p=10830#comment-114973 Richard - I'd appreciate an extended article on the criteria to be considered when examining ROI in this context. Tonight by mid-night will be fine, thanks. :-) Mark Richard – I’d appreciate an extended article on the criteria to be considered when examining ROI in this context. Tonight by mid-night will be fine, thanks. :-) Mark

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